# What are your favorite examples of Beethoven's rhythmic ingenuity?



## GucciManeIsTheNewWebern (Jul 29, 2020)

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## MarkW (Feb 16, 2015)

The "extra" beat in the scherzo of the sixth quartet. The whole scherzo of the last quartet. The lack of an anticipated rest before the final phrase pf the Big theme in the finale of the Ninth Symphony. The syncopated variation in the Arietta of Op.111. The breakup of the main theme at the end of the Eroica's funeral march.


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## Phil loves classical (Feb 8, 2017)

Are we in the 19th Century?  I'm sure Beethoven was rhythmically ingenious in his time. His 7th symphony last movement.


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## Kreisler jr (Apr 21, 2021)

MarkW said:


> The "extra" beat in the scherzo of the sixth quartet. The whole scherzo of the last quartet.


Yes. They are favorites. 
Also the beginning of the Eroica scherzo with the grouping of notes weakening the 3/4 beat and the brief section in the coda with change to alla breve.

The 1/16th early in op.31/1 is also funny but a bit silly.


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